This is coming as a digression and a distraction from my rest and vacation, but I need to address this quickly, before my silence is used as a marketing tool by some. I just got a call today from someone who heard from someone that I was claimed to be the leader of a particular MLM, this is absolutely wrong! I had taken a public stand by making comments on some particular posts on this site, indicating my lack of belief in some of these programs, if that does not read clearly enough, let me further add my thoughts here.
I also got a mail, from one of the most authoritative persons on the nigeria net today, asking me if my position on some online programs won’t affect my good name when they come crumbling. I replied him, explaining my stand, and I think all my friends and well wishers online also need the insight of my response. I love the way business is moving online, it’s giving many youths a chance and it’s creating the long awaited alternatives to yahoo-yahoo. Hopefully, the plans for giving the Nigerian youth a voice will be achieved first from the internet. Nobody needs to really agree totally with me on my stand on any of these online businesses though… it’s MY stand, and I’m just a little part of the universe.
Canadian Diamond Traders
Background
This was the first program I heard of online and the first I joined. I joined directly on the main board. I marketed it without fully understanding how the boards worked. I relied on my up line. The program has my N70,500 in it, I’ve been there for over 5 months, and I’m yet to cycle out once.
My Stand
I think it’s a good program and has managed to last for 5yrs plus. I haven’t profited from it because I didn’t take time to understand it well, the initial amount to get into the program was high (just got to find out later that there is a feeder program) and possibly because not long after joining the program, I saw Clubfreedom with 6k4you as feeder and really liked it. I believe in focus, so as soon as I joined CF, I slowed down almost completely on CDT.
Clubfreedom (via 6k4you feeder)
Background
What won me into this program, was the hint of ecash invest which was supposed to be a little secret that would come up in 3 months. I knew that if I joined and didn’t even cycle, I would at least be well positioned for an investment program that will stabilize the travel program. This is the only program I know the developers of, to an extent and trust based on what I know. I joined the program 21st of March 2007, and it’s been a good story since then. I have cycled out a number of times since then as well.
My Stand
I think it’s a great program. It’s the only program I can confidently stand in front of any audience and market. It’s also the only program i market online. I believe the addition of ecash-invest makes it the only program in that category that can last forever. They are not putting themselves under any pressure of guaranteed income, and they are celebrating their first year birthday tomorrow. Things have gotten a bit slow on some board now (in Nigeria because of distractions), but I am sure it will pick up speed with ecash invest, before the year closes. There is also a no loss situation now, as ecash invest looks really promising, and people can recoup their CF membership and ecash invested funds easily as ROI. I am also not Clubfreedom Rep for Nigeria, a guy that joined 6 months before me is. I am representing them for ecash invest, and happily I love it that way.
Diamond Cash Club
Background
I was signed into the program by some friends. They paid for me, signed me up, and I only got the password long after I cycled. I think it’s a creatively developed distraction from CF (I understand the creators had links with CF), and wasn’t well thought out. It’s a program that cares a little less about down lines, as soon as you get to the main board, your down lines don’t matter.
My Stand
I think it’s a copycat scheme, that wasn’t well thought out. I have never marketed it online or offline. I think all such types of programs will crash after some time, the only thing that could stand them out is creativity to develop something to give it quick sustainability, which is what CF has. With the introduction of DCC version 3.0, the owners of the program just crashed it themselves, who will join you on the one you are on, when they know there is a better one? I advice you run from it, or market it letting people know it’s gonna go the way of Nigerian HYIPs. I hear Nigerians constitute about 90% or more of their clients.
Getaway Club
Background
I was signed up into this as well. I agreed to go along, so I can at least give an unbiased view, so they don’t say, I don’t understand. I told a few people about this letting them know I got signed up into it, but informed them all that I thought it was going to crash, and I thought the boards were to many. I cycled out of it, but with as much down lines as it would have taken me to cycle out Clubfreedom 4 times (I’m not exaggerating).
My Stand
I have never marketed it online, and I have done all I know to warn people off entrusting their credibility on the program, the program is too people consuming and I fear it will slow down and depending on the management, crash. I think it’s also another copycat scheme, and the breakage they control (amount between coming in and cycling out) is too much. The name is also scary… getaway…lol. I think they might just do what they’ve always said they’ll do.
Investment Programs
There are tons of these on the net. My tip here is, don’t invest into a program, invest in the credibility of the owners. Look at the chain that links you to them, check if real human beings are involved, be in touch with someone who has direct links with them, and you can trust what he/she has to say. I was shocked when I heard Swisscash had crashed, I had been tempted to invest, but just never did. I heard the guaranteed income they were giving probably turned them into a ponzi scheme. Be wise with your investments. Ecash is a next global big thing in my thinking, but again, it’s my simple opinion.
Summarily
The only program that will shock me if it crashes is Clubfreedom, and that is because I know enough to think they are built to last, particularly with ecash invest in the picture. That is the only program I also authoritatively approved, and this was because I knew that ecash invest would add stability to the program. Some people have got themselves stuck, because rather than take it as a network marketing program, where you buy only as much as your marketing strength, they turned it into an investment program and bought 30 slots. The only way out is marketing 30times more.
I know what it feels like to join a program, and be stuck somewhere in the middle, this has happened to me in CDT, I don’t blame anybody for it, it’s all my fault, and it’s stuck today, doesn’t mean it won’t be out someday. If any of my downlines however feels that I am at fault for his getting stuck, I am willing to to hear that one out and compensate appropriately.
For all the other programs, I offer no remorse. I don’t think they are built to last, at least not yet…and I really don’t care, I personally prefer to stay focused on ecash-invest and by inference CF. I also prefer to stay with my CF downlines.
I hear some people are peddling news that I’m the leader of one program or the other, they are lying. Don’t let them use me to market you oh.
Thanks for your support and encouragements.
55 thoughts on “Online Businesses/MLMs – My Stand!”
I don’t think an adult can blame anybody for his/her getting stucked!
Its unfortunate that some of us got tricked by all these “distraction” strategies! Like I keep advising those that care to listen, advocates of other programs (GAC & DCC) have cycled off one (CF) before introducing you to others.
If you happen to be involved in more than one & yet to cycle off any, its rather unfortunate… You may never even cycle off any because you’re already distracted. But if you intend to succeed, I’ll advise you focus on one. The one you strongly believe in, not necessarily the one with lowest number of people nor the one with highest return. The one YOU can confidently say “based on my deligent findings & understanding, I am persuaded to focus on this”.
The only internet program I’ve ever been involved in is Clubfreedom and I’ve been more than successful in it because I knew what I was joining and I keep my focus.
Be wise good people! Be wise!!
Hey,
When I finished reading this piece, and saw “this post has been read by 3776 people until now” I scrolled on eager to read everyone’s comment as I was sure there would be lots of comments on this one. Alas! only one comment! And I know the answer, a lot of people have too much respect for Deolu to air their views on this post. Too many people are already distracted and into diamondcash and getawayclub…that includes moi.
My views, I agreed and believe in focus. For many reasons I cannot possibly say here, I had to join getawayclub. Incidentally I saw getawayclub in the mold of 6k4u. I trully believe if managed well, it will go a long way….my view!
Unfortunately, many people are already aware of the existence of getaway, so even if you don’t want to market it, they will ask you about it. What I have done is to merger both getaway and CF. Just like 6k4u and CF worked together. Interested? Give me call.
Hey guys, give us your opinion on this one. Sometimes, it’s good to disagree. There is knowledge in disagreement u know!
Waiting…checking…watching….
Niyi (0803-3092787)
I really respect Deolu’s opinion and will take a gamble on his advice. I’ve been in club freedom for just a week and I’ve been targeting members of Dimond Cash, and Getaway club as my main marketing prospects. I’ve recorded good success so far. My key selling point has been the e-Cash investment innovation and the drive by club freedom to keep inventing. It shows that some people are really working and thinking at CF. Just as Deolu rightly observed I will be amazed to see CF crash.
Hi all,
I havent made much comments here although I ve been following the happenings and developments on this blog. The efforts of Deolu are quite commendable. It has opened the eyes of many to numerous opportunities while redirecting the straying tendencies.
I must say here that some few greedy fellows are converting the good plans of CF to a ponzi scheme by asking ppleto pay some amount and never bother about marketing people and then promised of a fixed return within a timeframe.These are the kinds of people that will not allow things to work in Nigeria. Beware of them too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re right Niyi, I expect more comments as well… but “otito koro”. I don’t think “too much” respect should make anyone hold back his/her view.
I’ll appreciate if someone can advise me/us on how fast pple now progress on different schemes. I only know of CF which have been very slow but I hope GAC & DCC are moving very fast, especially GAC (at least dats what many were made to believe).
Niyi,
I like ur style of “merging” but let me remind you dat 6k4you is like a phase b4 CF, I’m not sure pple can cycle from GAC to CF!!! I do hope u’ve cycled off one at least. If you have, pls be open enough to tell us which one. If you’r yet to cycle, I pity u bros…
As you have rightly said some people are MLM Junkies,they move from one to the other even without reaping the fruit of any,they always follow the crowd while some have not been honest in the way they market these programs.
I can say categorically that lots of people does not know the object of most of the MLM they are into,all that they care about is the $$$$$$ ,majority cant explain what and what the MLM they are promoting does and the fundamentals of those program.
Some are full of tricking others to join and also involved in bait advert or marketing,it just a pity that these distractions has brought a lot of inactivity to lots of boards.
Lets be honest in whatever we do as a country so that we can move forward.
GREAT RESPECT AT ALL TIMES SHOULD BE GIVEN INDIVIDUALS FOR THEIR DECISIONS.I RESPECT THE CHAIR FOR BEING FOCUSSED ON CF .
ANYBODY WHO IS AWARE ENOUGH TO GET INTO ANY OF THESE CLUBS SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS ACTION.WE ALL NATURALLY LOOK FOR GOOD DEALS.
PLEASE SHARE MY EXPERIENCE.
I NEVER TOOK INTEREST IN ANY OF THESE UNTIL A JUNIOR FRIEND CYCLED OUT OF CF.I BECAME AN EVANGELIST FOR CF.I DID SEVERAL SLOTS FOR SELF AND FAMILY MEMBERS.I BROUGHT IN FRIENDS AND SOME OF MY CONTRACTORS INTO CF.I ENLISTED A FRIEND BASED IN IVORY COAST WO HAD ALSO REGISTERED OTHERS.I WAS ON FIRE FOR CF!
THE NEWS OF GAC NOW BROKE.THE CARRIER OF THE NEWS RELATED HIS EXPERIENCE .WHILE IT TOOK NEWS CARRIER A LITTLE OVER 3 MONTHS TO CYCLE IN CF;WITHIN 2 WEEKS HE RECIEVED $50 ON MOVING FROM BRONZE TO SILVER.HE HAD RECOVERED HIS INITIAL INVESTMENT ON RECIEVING $200 MOVING FROM SILVER TO GOLD AND STARTED RECIEVING COMMISSIONS ON THE MOVEMENTS OF HIS DOWNLINES .UNDER A MONTH HE HAD OVER $12000 IN THE KITTY ON CCLING OUT OF PLATINUM.I WAS IMPRESSED AN I ENLISTED .UNDER ONE MONTH I MADE OVER $300 WHICH I USED TO REGISTER A MEMBER INTO CF.WITH THAT I HAD RECOVERED MY INVESTMENT.I PRESENTLY HAVE 3 SLOT IN THE MAIN BOARD IN CF AFTER 2 MONTHS.
I WAS JUST DISCUSSING WITH MY 70 YEAR OLD MOTHER WHAT I HAVE BEING DOING RECENTLY ON THE NET CONCERNING CF AND GAC OF COURSE NOT WITH THE INTENTION OF INTERESTING HER.TO .TO MY SURPRISE MY MOTHER ASKED ME TO PUT PART OF THE MONEY I WAS TO GIVE HER INTO GAC,THE MORE QUICKLY REWARDING ONE .SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT TOO OLD NOT TO RECOGNIZE A GOOD DEAL WHEN SHE SEES ONE.
Deolu,
i agree with your views about getawayclub and diamondcashclub.
but all my people upon hearing about the two are shifting their attention away from clubfreedom. this made me take CF to towns where i’m sure they will not hear about these two (DCC & GaC) soon except they hear it from me.
marketing club freedom has really become more difficult. any advice, any help you can render.
I hope GaC will not come and get me for this but i’m using them as a feeder for CF. Every $200 earned from them is going into clubfreedom and that applies to all my downlines. how does that sound to you?
please respond
@biola.com
@ Deolu
I understand your position considering the fact that more MLM would soon be out. I already have a focus which is to spread the Diamond Cash Club bug all around Africa – call it whatever for now its the highest paying MLM.
I am not so sure but most likely when CF started, a few peeps in CDT would have doubted if they would last this long but they have. I am in touch with the CEO of DCC & I know the stuff he is made off. I am billed to have a meeting with him in the next couple of days that would give me a better understanding of their future plans but I bet you he has so much up his sleeves.
The assertion you made that Nigeria makes up 90% of members is totally false. I dont know the exact figure but DCC sure has members from all over the world, I ll get the exact figures from him in the next couple of days. If you said that Nigerians have been key to DCC’s success then I would agree but not 90% then it means DCC was formed because of Nigerians. The truth is that any business we choose to partake in booms. CF has had more success in Nigeria than anywhere else except India.
The difference between CF & DCC is that fact that DCC has a listening management. About three weeks ago when the CEO invited me for a meeting in Hong Kong, in my reply I suggested
the need to allow people choose between the $6k Diamond or $6k Cash, today I am proud the V3.0 has been launched & with a listening management I am so sure they will succeed because the voice of the people is the voice of God.
Lastly, I wish to say let everyone be responsible for his/her own investment decisions. Whether you choose DCC, CF or Getaway be responsible for your own actions.
I must say here that everyone is entiltled to his or her own opinion. The truth remains; people are looking for opportunities where they will make fast money.
In my heart, I believe so much in CF. I have been in it for almost 2 months and am yet to cycle out though 2 of my downlines have come to fortify me on the main board. I should be cycling out in no time.
But then, I heard about GAC. The motivation for it now was the fact that I could earn money at each level. I also invested there and have started earning money at each level and have recovered my initial capital. The motivation for a lot of people, just like for me, in GAC is that you can earn your initial capital back soon after joining and introducing a few people who in turn introduce others. I know deep inside that this program will not last long… You can prove me wrong …. I am there to “gamble” and hope to make something out of it for as long as it lasts.
I see CF as lasting longer because of their affiliate program – ecash invest. People who have cycled out can always put back some of their money into ecash invest. That way, there is always a pool of funds within the system which ensures sustainability of the program.
It is unfortunate also that some people have turned this thing to their mainstay business by collecting money from people who will do no marketing of any sort, yet they will be promised a particular return within a time frame. I agree with ADEBAYO.
I am based in Ibadan, which is the present headquarters of “WONDER BANKS” in Nigeria. (I have a compilation of names of over 50 Networks in Ibadan alone). Many of these wonderbanks that have failed have invested peoples’ monies into CF,GAC,DCC … et al and because patronage has reduced, they are unable to fulfill their financial obligations to the public.
Right now, Ibadan has become a KIDNAPPING ZONE. The people who run these “NETWORKS” are being kidnapped almost on a daily basis. It has even extended to the staff of these people and their immediate familes. Some thugs, and probably “cultists” from the Polytechnic Ibadan and U I have seized this opportunity to be demanding ransom from these people in the guise that they have their monies trapped even though they do not have any money there. I’ll not go into more details for now….
Let us tread carefully … follow your heart ….
more events will unfold soon … am waiting and watching out ….
I can understand the passion which many of the readers of this informative blog express when they respond to the articles articulated and published by Adeolu.
However, we must never forget to take responsibility for our actions because as observed in the past few months a noticable trend is for people to start casting apsersions on others who do not share the same views as theirs. When the HYIP craze started, it was on this blog that some persons castigated Deolu for not supporting the masses in the quest for wealth creation. I am very sure that with Deolu’s warnings, a lot more person’s funds were averted from going down the drain with the dubious HYIPs. No doubt, there were genuine ones however, more than ever the majority were scammers with no idea of how to manage the funds.
I met with a successful internet enterpreneuer during the past week who has his office in Surulere and he explained how one of these “fund managers” has beseiged his office after mopping up in excess of N200million from the public and then approcahed him asking for advice on what to do with the funds in order to meet up with expected payout to subscribers. Absurd you might say! Well, he turned them down because he expected that a plan must always exist before such funds are collected from the public. Well so much for this.
In my course of learning about the rudiments of network marketing, i have discovered so many tools and materials which have advocated that it is ideal that you stick to one program which works for you.
Chairman sir, kindly allow me to attach this link to enable people gain a better insight into network marketing and why they will succeed or fail at it. I believe that once a lot of us go through this site, we will understand why it is important for us to stick to at most one network marketing program as well as know that not everyone should be involved in network marketing. http://www.network-marketing-works.com/
Please spread the good news of network marketing without the rancour, bitterness and false news.
Morakinyo
hummm so much have been said,and i guess my post couple of weeks back about the new copycat schemes have started hatching…..just yesterday i was almost at war with couple of guys on dipos blog,who were critising people for getting stuck in clubfreedom and putting the blames on thier uplines and addressing cf as a ponzi and pyramid scheme….if anybody could remember vividly,i was against people on this blog marketing gac and dcc and promising people free downlines,i clearly stated that most of them ave slots in clubfreedom being stuck due to lack dowlines and yet they market freedownlines for new members,if they ave so mch capacity to give people downlines,am pretty sure they would ave cycled out over and over again in clubfreedom given their own slot full support….one thing about nigerians is that we are so lazy that we want free good money without any effort….so thats why most people get scamed by falling to schemes that promise them goodies without any effort…..we all forgot these schemes are MLM[multi level marketing]the whole idea is to build a network by marketing these programs and connecting people together…..we should learn to be focused and project all efort on one scheme at at time and achieve success,rather than jumping all about due to our greed for money….like i said $6000 is not bad at all in nigeria…..so my advice to all lazy people dat ave been stuck,dont asume you ave lost money,u avnt…once u learn the habbit of marketing and get downlines you will surely move up and eventually earn your $$$$$$…..as for me,its still clubfreedom 4life for more info on regitration and how the program works,with hints on some little board dynamics…feel free to call 08023926849,01-8522227 or email seun4lifeng@yahoo.com……always online 24/7 to answer any question signup fee is jst N30,000….tnx and happy investing “naija oni baje oooooooo”
Well…
a lot of views have been expressed on the different schemes. Anyways i just think that each scheme has tried to capitalize on the “seemed” flaw of its predecessor.
DCC capitalized on the CF system of waiting for downlines on the main board.
Getaway capitalized on the others by paying members as they move across boards keeping them on a perpetual high.
I guess i just love the marketing and leadership skills being developed throughout these programs, although the remuneration isnt that bad.
.but what can i say…?I guess i’m just an MLM junkie….
Let every one be resposible for his or her own investment decisions.
Deolu I respect your views as regards CF and the rest but whether anyone likes it or not, these MLM programs are making impacts in people’s life.
The fact tha DCC pay’s $14,000 does not mean they won’t last, it is just your opinion which is not based on any FACT. Membership of the club cuts across globe, Nigeria does not constitute 90% of their members but of course just like CF and Getaway Nigerians have been key to their success so far.
I am not so sure but when CF started guys in CDT would have screamed hell NO, they wont last (how can they pay $6,000) but so far they have survived.
One year from now DCC would have grown bigger than most people would have imagined, I am in touch with DCC management and I know what stuff they are made of. Just like CF had almost a year to prove itself, in no time DCC would prove it can do better. Well, for now DCC remains the fastest, easiest and best paying MLM.
Again let every one be resposible for his or her own investment decisions.
DCC ROCKS!!!
D,
As for clubfreedom being the created to last, that is true. But it took some time for them to come up with the e-cash programme that we feel is their main strongpoint. Correct me if am wrong, GAC is relatively new when compared to CF and they could also come up with other investment programmes as Cf.
As for the GAC being a copycat, well, maybe but remember that there is nothing new under the sun, no idea is original, it’s not what is done but how is done.
I joined 6k4u sometime in June and I just entered the main board on cf last week(my fault) but I entered Gac late July and I’m already topping my gold board.
The pple behind GAC understand the principle of small victories before the major victory and that is a major selling point for me, the fact that pple get motivated after every board and the size of the board(though there are more boards) is key.
As for if they will last forever, well let time answer that question, but, in the mean time, let’s make some money.
Henry.
Hmmmmm! CF has been a good story for me but GAC has certainly been a great one too.
Hi all
I think Deolu was not fair in his comparison of the various MLM networks. He makes it look as if whatever is not CF is distractionist , a copycat program ,and will definitely crash, . I don’t believe any program is a copy of the other i believe the people behind all this networks have done there homeworks . Can Deolu tell us which was the first MLM network to start operating in the world ? Does that mean that every network that came afterwards is a copycat of the first ? Or are we saying that the first Way is always the best Way and must remain be the only Way.
Some people are calling others Lazy or distractionist bcos they have not been able cycle out of cf before joining another network, the question is,is CF such a straight jacket that you must cycle out ?
Frankly the other networks have offered better returns than Cf and are easier to go through.CF has something to learn from this besides ecashinvest is not a guaranty that nothing can go wrong with Clubfreedom. Do you all remember a few weeks ago when there was a problem with the Cf website ? A lot of people were beginning to laugh . If anyone has the capability to run more than one network the decision i his. I think if you can drive while chewing bubble gum and talking then being in two MLM networks wouldn’t be a big fuse .
moha1
08023300248
DEAR SEUN,
THANKS FOR YOUR VERY SOUND COMMENTS.
HOWEVER,PARTS OF YOUR COMMENTS SAYING NIGERIANS ARE LAZY AND GREEDY ARE AVOIDABLE.
IF MY GRANDFATHER WERE TO LEARN OF THESE MLMS;HE WOULD DECLARE THEM TOO “SWEET” AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM!.
FACT IS WE ARE ALL IN THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE RELATIVELY HYIPS.
@ Gbenguz,
In you comment, you said “FACT IS WE ARE ALL IN THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE RELATIVELY HYIPS”. I don’t agree with you. MLM is work, real work. The 3 programs in question require you to refer 2 people. But in reality, tell me one person who has been able to cash out after doing just this work of referring 2 people and goes to sleep. Even if there is such a person, some other people in his/her network didn’t really go to sleep. HYIPs don’t require any work from you. You just place your money and wait for the expected returns. Then again, majority of those who don’t circle out eventually are those “that just don’t believe that much money can come to them”. Therefore they don’t put in the required effort. Another reason is because most of us have conveniently forgotten about the “product” or we just aren’t interested in the product. In normal everyday business, there are people who invest little and profit big time! Would you say their biz is HYIP bcos the pay is big!!!?
@ All,
Let’s put things in proper perspective. Some MLMs will die, not bcos they weren’t made to last, but bcos aparty may eventually set in on the part of those of us who patronize them. So let’s be careful in our comments, as there people who just capitalize on these comments and discourage others. Let’s give everyone a fair chance to circle out.
My view, as always!
@All,
I know everybody will defend his/her position on all these MLM,let just be careful the way we market them,dont deceive other to come in and they get stucked,teach them the fundamentals and let everybody be happy.
@all
i like the exchange and freedom of speech going on here. If you check my post, you’ll see words like “i think”, “might”, “for now” and “could”. What that means is that I’m only sharing my opinions.
The other thing I’m trying to make clear as well, for the future, based on my thoughts is that let nobody ever say, that I am responsible for his/her plight in joining any of the programs I myself am not sure of.
You might not all understand it, but some people are taking some of these things very far, claiming on air that I’m the leader of a program and encouraging people to join in droves, when I’ve never communicated with anybody within the company. My name is no where near what it could be yet, but lending credibility with my name to something I’m not sure of is not a wise move.
One more thing… DCC has slowed down reasonably because of Getaway…and trust me, there are many more to come. Maybe after a while we’ll have 20, and some people will do all and not cycle in one, while some people will cycle in all or almost. I think the right mentality is once you have cycled, to help your downlines.
well…
It as always been very interesting reading from this site. Deolu, your comments have always (or almost) been just in time and addresses the needs of your increasing readership.
I share most of your opinions on these internet opportunities. I will just want to add…
1. That people who come to comment should not see those who come to read as fearful or ashamed of what others will say about their view points. I believe there is more wisdom in listening than in speaking.
2. People who are deft in using strong languages should pls take it easy. This I believe is an intellectual meeting point. People should learn to accommodate others’ opinions.
3. Personally, I don’t think there is a scheme that is infallible, and, while some are designed from the scratch to crumble after sometime, I believe even such programs/businesses can still be ransomed. It depends on who’s handling it.
I sincerelly hope that those who have cycled out of any of these programs and have not blown their cash away are diversifying into other things. By other things here I mean not internet related. I also hope that those who are yet to cycle out will do very soon, just they should keep the work up. The speed in any of the schemes is directly proportional to marketing efforts.
See you all at the top.
@niyi,
i appreciate ur comment and making it known to some guys on this blog,dat mlm programs/schemes is real work and the whole idea is being active by putting a lil bit of effort in your marketing skills…also everybody should be responsible for his/her getting stuck or not moving up and shouldnt put a blame on anyone…..but hold on a min,this goes to the lazy members thats been stuck for a while due to lack of effort…lets take for instance you ave been on the street for so long looking for employment and finally you got a marketing job in a bank and you were given a target of about 50m….now tell me would you dump the bank offer and tell them you cant market,bcos u cant meet up wth the given amount?of cos not…you would rather try your best and meet wth people you knw can deposit huge amount..and at the end you’ll come up with some good result if not the whole 50m.isnt that so?and dont forget your salary is less than 200k monthly wth serious pressure from your boss who treatens your job if you dont come up with good result…..so why cant you market clubfreedom agressivesly and make $6000 over and over again,wch could be x3 or x4 of your monthly salary and remember you are not under any pressure from anybody…so people lets move up and get to the streets and meet people,friends,families,church members,penpals,boy friends,girl friends,business associates and market clubfreedom to them all,so we can all be financially free forever.i belive its worth the stress.we shouldnt rely on other peoples effort…..tnx so much and have a great sunday…..its still moi seun 08023926849,01-8522227 or seun4lifeng@yahoo.com…..clubfreedom.biz/seunajayi,clubfreedom.biz/seunjoeboy
At this point in my own view, I think everyone involved in any of these MLM Schemes, should be mindful of an approach that is detailed and sense of ingenuity before embarking on any of these schemes. I think this will minimize the unnecessary accusations and beefings. Pls, let no one become the modern day Adam bcos of his/her uplines or downlines. Shikena!
based on ur premonition Deolu, do u sincerely think getawayclub will crash too? I need a reply ASAP .thanks..
The problem we have in this country is dat people are full of deceit and will want to pull down anybody with good intention. What I know is dat everybody is old enough to decide for his/herself.Anyway enjoy ur holiday and come back on time so dat I can join Clubfreedom as on of ur downlines. I had wanted to join b4 u went on vacation but culdnt get to doing it.
I think everyone that signs up for any of these programs is old enough to do a little background check about these programs for him or her self.
I can’t imagine why people will want to blame everybody or evrything else apart from themselves for any misfortune that comes their way.
That’s the main problem.. nobody wants to take responsibilty for his/her actions. Its much better saying…… Deolu advocated for this MLM programme so I joined……………. and if anything goes wrong Deolu is to blame shikena!!.
I know of people who just want to sign up for these programs and fold their arms and watch the money roll in!! It doesnt happen that way.
Deolu, pls ride on. Enjoy the rest of ur holiday and don’t even lose a single night’s sleep becos of any of these issues.
Cos even if any of these MLM programs eventually crash……… we all knew from the onset that there was an element of risk involved…..
Anyone with enough guts and seriousness can join me on http://www.clubfreedom.biz/rt33924
or http://www.ecash-invest.biz/rt33924
Hi Deolu,i’d like to correct d wrong opinion you have about DCC.(hope it hasnt misled people already)as far as am concerned,DCC rocks,its the best of them all.
DCC V2 doesnt exist anymore.anyone that joins Diamond cash club now is joining V3 so for people that are already there yeah yeah yeah,u will be getting 8k but for people that are just comin in…………its $14k all the way+u’d have gotten ur investment back ooh.
i believe most people that come here are adults,please understand very well what you are puttin ur money in before you do it.u interested in making $6k from N30k,$12k from N25k or $14k from N35k.the choice is yours.if anyone wants to understand any of this schemes better,send me a mail on bodeoil@yahoo.com and u’ll have all ur questions answered.
ecash might be good way to sustain Clubfreedom really and for some reason it gives me the Nospecto vibe.what is goin to stop people from buying the already numerous CF slots up for grabs now if they must invest in ecash or just use someone’s username??because as it is,it is no more about cycling out the $6000.its now about their ROI monthly.for someone like you that has thousands of downlines,fine ecash rocks but for the young man/lady that couldnt get anyone to invest in CF,how will u get anyone to do ecash??most importantly,are u sayin one should invest in CF first then join eash,to make money from your downlines,u need to invest $250 so in short marketing has changed from invest $200 to $450???oh please!!
jus all my tots really and like i read sumwhr,my tots dont constitute the bible of investment.
In My opinion,DCC rocks.its the best!!!!highest returns for the same (or even lesser) amount of work!!!but if u are “lazy”,cant market,u can invest in ecash or relax business(they are into forex to and they give returns weekly)ecash is new so i dont really know what thr percentages wil be like but with relaxbusiness u make at least 12% weekly.that is not bad at all for someone that doesnt want “stress” at all.
In summary,DCC is the best,its rocks.$14k for anyone that joins through anyone now.4more info,send me a hola on bodeoil@yahoo.com
Chairman and All,
I was invited by a church outside Lagos to talk to them about Business/Investment options available. The pastor had advertised my coming. It was going to be an all night programme. When the time came the venue was packed full, people came from neighbouring towns to hear about the wonderful business/investment opportunity. As I was waiting to be called up to make my presentation, I kept pondering in my heart. Should I tell them about Getaway or DCC or CF/E-cash or all or some???
It was quite a tough decision. This pastor had integrity in the area and trusted me enough to invite me.
In my mind thoughts were flying. Getaway is cheaper and you can get rewards faster etc, DCC now pays 14k etc. Suddenly I knew the right opportunity to share.
”The righteous shall flourish like a palm tree…” not like grass.
Suddenly, Getaway and DCC seemed like grass to me. Grass is green and flourishing today but dies almost as quickly when the season changes.
E-cash Invest/CF is like a hybrid palm tree investment.
It might take many months to years before it blossoms fully but it will grow to become a major river of wealth from generation to generation.
From the comments I’ve read above, its clear to me that most people have never studied MLM. I have studied MLM. MLM is not for everyboby. Most Nigerians are impatient, therefore not fit for MLM.
Read Business School by Kiyosaki, you’ll realise that Getaway and DCC are structured to improve your cash flow for a season but not to make you rich. I’m signed up in both but I know what I’m talking about.
I know people who make $1m residual income a month consistently from MLM. I know what they did to achieve that. Its not Getaway or DCC kind of MLM. I tell you, you can’t will your getaway username to your children’s children. It’ll be useless then. But with E-cash/CF it makes a lot of sense.
Cheers
@NIYI
I CONCUR WITH YOUR VIEWS .WE MUSTALL KEEP MARKETING.
@ Chidi,
My eyes are on those figures oh…show them to me oh, let me learn.
@ Olajuwon,
I guess I was wrong in thinking they set it up as parallels, that was the impression that most of it’s active advocates shared with me, I hope you have cycled out like 3ce?
@ Emmay
While I don’t want to be a prophet of doom… and seeing that they don’t have much people on the forum in their defense, I’ll say don’t introduce anybody that can get you arrested if it crashes.
@ Omooba, Dolapo and Funke,
Thanks
Everyone has got the right to there own opinion and ideas about the whole thing, but i believe we should always have the mind to reason and take a bolder look into the future of this programmes when we talk about them
Getaway sounds interesting cos it pay back your investment in no time even if you don’t get to cycle out, you have your money back…abi, DCC rocks cos it pays you more u dont have to leave your diamond in the US..of A…they give you all the money so that you can buy it out here in naija…CF..sounds better cos it now has Ecash and you can easily do something like “I hereby will http://www.clubfreedom.biz/enyola
http://www.ecash-invest.biz/enyola
to my lovely Son Eniola, The password is safe with secret combination 123456789…..”
Its all so good, i think the truth is that we should all get involved in what we think is good for us…If now is more important…GEC & DCC if the future counts CF and Maybe DCC from the confidence being displayed by the friends of the CEO…of DCC.. Let ur 6th sense guide your decision…as for me you can join my chariot on
http://www.clubfreedom.biz/enyola
http://www.ecash-invest.biz/enyola
and maybe when i have too much money http://www.getaway.net/enyola….
keep playing and keep winning
To Deolu’s Stand:
This is one piece of “sincere” advice you can get here.
Deolu has made something very clear; that,
1. You need to be focused on whatever you’re doing.
2. He’s been where you are aspiring to be, and you can learn from his experience.
3. There are side attractions, but they aren’t the real thing!
4. He endorses Clubfreedom.
5. You have work to do, to earn the reward.
I think if you are a forward looking “futuristic” person, you can hardly be moved by the wave of things presently in any of these MLMs. One thing or the other makes us all feel confident about what we do, and if you feel that way about your program, then stay that way so that you can succeed!
Special thanks to the likes of Chidi Okocha, Morakinyo, and a few others. This shows that there are egg-heads on board in this blog, and with your contributions here, I think we would make our superb and superior business orientations sunk deep into the minds of numerous readers.
Thank you, everyone for helping me learn something everytime I stop by.
+234 808 764 7749
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Obafemi, E. Opeyemi
Online Program Director, and
Regional COO,
http://www.team100.com
Hi Deolu,
Thanks for your response earlier.I already sent you a mail as well.Please,help me look into my issue.I cannot log into my CF page again.It is also the same issue with over 90 of my downlines.The ones that registered with if2001,if2002……..if2090.they all cannot log On as well.
please,help me check this out .My downlines are killing me already…
Thanks.
Dotun Adeks
08033637733.
I would like to comment on the aforementioned topic being passionately debated here being my very first post on this esteemed blog.
When people start to hold dogmatically to certain opinions of of infallibility there is a tendency to be biased and sentimental.
Would Deolu who has rightly admitted that he had only directly joined Club Freedom through 6K4U but joined Diamond Cash Club + Getaway Club through proxy be in an independent position to pass prophetic judgement on the life-span of competing MLM’s without compromising his business interest in Club Freedom? I doubt.That should be left for the discerning MLM punters.
I currently have over $4,000 worth of investment in Club Freedom,$3,300 in the Diamond Cash Club and $1,920 in the Getaway Club because I approached the MLM schemes from a business perspective and would like to analyse the 3 main MLM schemes mentioned by Deolu as an active participant.
The truth of the matter is that in nearly every MLM scheme 10% of the participants will always recoup their investment while the remaining 90% will still be stagant. Robert Kiyosaki calls it the 10/90 principle (where 90% of investments are always held by 10% of the investors).[*Read “Why We Want You to be Rich-by Robert Kiyosaki & Donald Trump”]
When I joined Club Freedom on April 28 2007 I was a “sceptic” and against the 6K4U feeder scheme that sort of “used” people as a tool to join Club Freedom and joined directly.Three months later I was privileged to cycle out 6 times as a Team leader and it was through lots of hardwork…BUT everytime I looked down the long chain of my over 1,700 downlines (all in Nigeria) I could forsee many of them not going to cycle out for so many different reasons.(that is the way Pyramid schemes work, whether we like it or not).
To cycle out from Club Freedom is very very hard work, especially when you need to ensure your 2 downlines have also joined you to the Main Board.Along came the Diamond Cash Club-who pay $14,000 and refunds your initial investment when you cycle to their Main Board; and Getaway Club who pay out $12,250 and other instalmental forms of reward along the way.
When I saw this trend where MLM’s could offer increasing rewards for marketing their “products” I did my homework on my Spreadsheet and realised that so far as there is a Matrix based on a referal programme any MLM programmer can offer to pay whatever they like.Afterall, it takes 64 newly recruited downlines to pay the person on top of the Main/Diamond/Platinum Boards.Nothing stops someone from asking people to bring only one (1) downline to his MLM scheme in return for $20,000 payout-its feasible and sustainable.The problem is that only 10% of those who joined will get it. DCC’s Version 3 payout of $14,000 is highly sustainable because its paid only on the first cycle and its in lieu of collecting Diamonds.
Bottomline:
The presence or absence or presence of e-cash-invest in Club Freedom does not authenticate its reliability.You are still giving your money to someone to Trade in FOREX on your behalf.A3union and hosts of others with good track records do the same.It will mainly benefit those with large downlines.I joined it mainly because I had a large downline base.
If you have cycled out of Club Freedom or managed to reach their Main Board then the Diamond Cash Club should be child’s play for you IF only you show the same level of commitment because you do not need to worry about your downlines.Its less stressful to get the $8,000 (now $14,000) in DCC than the $6,000 in CF.
If you want to stand a chance in the Getaway Club my advise is that you join one of the well ORGANISED (foreign based)Next-in-Line Teams.You will get your 2 downlines,get pushed up through the boards by the Team and after a long patient journey (e.g Luckysgetawayclub.com or Megablast Club).To get through the 4 narrow boards there must be a concerted momentum of members pushing you up.
While Club Freedom copied its MLM concept from Canadian Diamonds,DCC and GAC improved upon the flaws of Club Freedom and dont be surprised if they soon start their own improved version of E-cash-invest if they spot flaws in the current version.
I have investments in all 3 MLM schemes and would not be prepared to PULL anyone down (they are all the same MLM Matrix-cum-referal programme Pyramid schemes) just to score cheap points. Lets just pray that in whatever we do we are part of the successful 10%-these schemes are not for EVERYONE.
@ londoncool,
That was quite a lenghty peice, thanks and hope to see more of you.
All I’ll say is that my name and my details are on this place, I owe it to people to share my sincere opinions and be accountable for them. From the little I gathered about you, not many of your downlines know that you are not even a Nigerian. They think you are a Nigerian in Diaspora, and that being on top of the naijateam makes you a Nigerian. I don’t think it’s fair on team members to push other MLMs when the first one you promised them success in hasn’t delivered it. …and pls I hope you didn’t know about this 10% fomular when you marketed people to join as next in line and do nothing (Next In Lines convert MLMs into Pyramid Schemes). I mean no harm, neither do I intend to be prejudiced, but if my identity was hidden and couldn’t be held accountable for my actions, I probably won’t do better.
I don’t take pride in how many times I’ve cycled, I take pride in how many people in my team have cycled. 6k4you forces you to give downlines to your downlines, and not amass them all for yourself, hence more people reach the target even though I do less, but interestingly, it gives me the opportunity to sign people into 6k, rt and CF. If I Joined CF directly, I would have cycled over 20times, but i’m far less than that, and happily so, because my downlines are enjoying the balance.
In my opinion, next in line teams are not good, they favour only the early comers, and trust me, they’ll cycle out and move on to other things. They don’t know you, they didn’t market you, and don’t owe you anything. They told you not to do anything else… but who are they?… usernames… that’s all you know about them.
Finally, on the note on which I agree with you, if the others have the financial clout to start their own investment programs and actually successfully do…perhaps…but if what I have written is indeed a prophecy, it’s just a matter of time, it doesn’t need defending.
@Deolu,u seem to have a number of not completely informed people around you dis days(LOL)
Londoncool is very much a nigerian,a nigerian in diaspora….yeah but he is very nigerian.as for the other MLM’s,its all about choices…..25k for $12250,33k for $6000 or 35k for $14000.i have a downline in CF that is yet to cycle yet she has cycled in DCC,i have others that have gotten thr $2k in GWC at least.life is all about the choices we make.the way i think Nospecto actually started doing business to sustain their pyramid scheme is the way i think CF has started e-cash to do same.since u have predicted Nov…….Dec.lets watch and see if it comes to pass afterall its just what u truly think.
@londoncool,how are u doing bro?
@ Olajuwon,
Are you sure or do I need to prove it? Not as if it really matters, but do you even know his real name?
I have you around me mate… I don’t know about the informed part..lol
About Nov-Dec.. again as you said… just my thoughts.
Londoncool is a Naija man to the core, hails from south south and wife hails from south west.
Why would anybody join cf and expect londoncool to make him cycle out? Come on, we must all be responsible for our own investment decisions. I joined cf under londoncool and I went ahead marketing & cycled out first. Lets not blame anyone especially considering the fact that CF has refused to adjust even if its just a bit, just to make it more attractive.
I believe DCC would be around for a long time to come, at least I am sure they would always adjust to make our boards move I.e. after the launch of V3, they have again launched dcc express – all these to make sure the boards keep moving. They also have greater plans just like cf & ecash invest – these guys are smart.
Personally, I see nothing wrong in next in line systems, of course there are some disadvantages just like Deolu pointed out but it doesn’t make it entirely bad but the decision is yours to make, you must be reponsible for the outcome if you choose to join any team whatsoever or stand alone.
DCC ROCKS!!!
fhreedom4real@gmail.com
@Deolu,there is nothing to prove,i know londoncool’s full names and i repeat that he is a nigerian to the core.i talk to him, he is my pal.fhreedom4real already pointed out to u where he and his wife are from!!u think naija people are dumb??lots of people talked to him before he registers for them so just admit u were wrongly informed(is dis becomin as always???)
i dont think am one of those around you oh if not u would always be given authentic info.LOL
but not to worry,i’ll try to have your back from here.
then just wondering,did u do 6k4u cos u were uninformed about CF itself at the time or you truly think it makes more sense??am still tryin to see how it makes sense on earth to do 6k4u.takia
Lovely and very Insightful.
I am very sure more of these MLM would keep springing up.
http://www.freelancez.blogspot.com
I’ve seen a number of cf members involved in some of these getaway,etc and also calling more people into it even thru this medium.
@ Fhreedom,
My bad…I believe u, I’ve also reconfirmed and have ur facts confirmed as well. The name I have also connects well with south south. I made a wrong conjecture, based on a bias of mine. I feel if people want to stand for something online, they should do it boldly with their name and face on it. Many online businesses come and go everyday for one singular reason, they are faceless. Many people know nothing about anybody there and when they crash it’s the local citizens that are seen that are blamed.
@ Londoncool
Sorry for my conjecture about your not being a Nigerian. I was wrong about that one. It’s ok to be wrong, just not ok to stay wrong.
@ Olajuwon
I knew about CF when I joined 6k4you, and with the information I have today, I’ll still go the same route if I had the benefit of going back. I can explain why to you if the opportunity ever presents itself. Early march this year the CF boards were slower than they are now, but 6k created the spark of newness.
@ All
I know MY stand will win negative comments from ardent followers of other programs, but it’s MY stand today, and life is progressive, I might learn something new and take another position in the future. Let each person be fully convinced of the decision he/she wants to take and take it without holding another responsible for his or her actions.
@ All
I know MY stand will win negative comments from ardent followers of other programs, but it’s MY stand today, and life is progressive, I might learn something new and take another position in the future. Let each person be fully convinced of the decision he/she wants to take and take it without holding another responsible for his or her actions.
Nice 1 ……..
Deolu nice 1…………………
Deolu, can you please send me a mail telling me what ecash is all about?I’m really interested in it and would like to invest but of course I’ll need to have a complete repertoire on it.Also send me info on Canadian Diamonds and your stand on it.Privately of course.
Well….
I have been in all the programs, cycled out of all. MLM is big work and pays off well for the work.
I am giving away free slots in getawayclub. I like it because the chances of not recouping part of your money if not all are very slim.
@Ayotunde
No talk say i dey ask for too much oo,
you said you have some free slots in
GEC, oga me sir, tell me more about that
if i can make things work on CF,i can also rock
on GEC… i will love to have it
just get back to me with info at
eniola_onebox@yahoo.com and i will start work on it
immediately.
@Ayotunde
PLS I AM INTERESTED.My email add is bimbooyewole@yahoo.com.thanks
wonderful! but i thought naija is not approved to participate on cf, so how come? i cant seem to get out of my qualifyn board. can u get people to fill my board? am in abuja and the awareness is not much. kindly come and host ds ur seminar in abuja e fit help us(me)
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how do i get to invest in e-cash invest.
pls reply,and what is the nxt big thing.
I think this is a very good review and analysis of the many mlm businesses around.Of course this was written long ago before the advent of Holidays and cash. As you must have known, one of the main forces anchoring the success story of the Clubfreedom programme,Michael Fraust is the founder of Holidays and cash and has made remarkable improvement on the progranmme in Holidays and cash.
You may read more about it here http://www.holidaysandcash.com/mayorking and join on that site.
Deolu is an authority on MLM and Network Marketing in West Africa. Watch out for this man!
Just read this again… wow… guess at times it’s just good to silently wait for things to be revealed in time. Feels a bit scary actually.